The Chief Prince Of Meshech And Tubal? 

By Jack Kelley

A document written to President Bush by three Rabbis in Israel won't get any notice in the world press, and isn't being given much attention by church leaders either, but in my view it's an extraordinary thing, given the status of its authors. Rabbi Steinzaltz is the leader of the Sanhedrin,  who Time magazine has called a once in a millennium scholar.  Dr. Eshel heads up the New Jewish Congress, and Rabbi Richman represents the Temple Institute and Temple Mount movements.  These are not kooks from the lunatic fringe, but respected scholars and leaders among religious Jews. 

It's being called The Bush Scroll and was written in the Name of the Lord, Eternal God, as if the authors believe they were His scribes in the effort, and calls to mind the phrase, “Thus saith the Lord.”  It was addressed to “esteemed Mr. George W. Bush, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, (Ezekiel 38:1) leader of the west.”  By including a reference to Ezekiel in the salutation the authors were identifying Pres. Bush as the one called Gog in that verse. It seems like they intend it to be viewed as a letter from God to His adversary (I am against you O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal). 

If so, it offers Mr. Bush a clear choice.  Although by addressing him as the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, they're saying that Mr. Bush is currently fulfilling this role, he can still decide to either;

Reject the role of Gog, and be counted among the truly righteous, on a par with Cyrus of Persia, who authorized the first re-gathering of Israel, and Lord Balfour of England, whose Balfour Declaration paved the way for the second, by defending Israel's right to the land God gave them,

Or continue to accept it and willfully aid in Israel's destruction, under the guise of peace, and be inscribed for eternal disgrace!

Students of prophecy have speculated for generations as to the identity of Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. But I don't believe there's ever been a time when Hebrew scholars of such distinction have so publicly and obviously done so.  I don't know if they believe that Mr.  Bush is just one of several leaders who will fulfill the prophecy of Gog, or if he's the one and only.  If it's the latter then they appear to be saying that unless he rejects the role, his vision of peace will materialize and the stage will be set for the Battle of Ezekiel 38.

I believe many Christians mistakenly deny the possibility that God can speak through  anyone outside the Church.  They forget that the very existence of the Nation of Israel is the fulfillment of prophecy and that absent the clear and direct intervention by God into the affairs of the modern state, it would have ceased to exist long ago. 

When I was helping to sponsor visits to the US by Israeli leaders and teachers like Gershon Solomon of the Temple Mount Faithful and Chaim Richman, who signed this document, I was constantly opposed by well meaning but misdirected Christians whose only interest in these men was to confront them with the gospel and show them the error of their ways.

Surely any Bible believing Christian wants to see God and His people reconciled, both on a national and personal level.  But the nation of Israel is following a path clearly laid out by the prophets of old,  a latter day a re-gathering in unbelief, followed by a return to the Old Covenant, a time of refining in the fire, and finally the recognition of their Messiah and restoration of the Davidic Kingdom.

In all things, there's a time for speaking and a time for listening. (Eccl. 3:7)  We in the Church would do well to listen to what these Rabbis are saying about where we are on that path,  and if I were President Bush, I'd give very careful consideration to their view of my role, and whose authority they claim in defining it.  As Jesus said these things are bound to come, but woe to that person through whom they come. (Luke 17:1) 01-11-08 

 

Kommentaar deur Johan Malan

Dit bly steeds vir my ‘n raaisel waarom Amerikaners so naďef is en so maklik mislei kan word. Selfs hulle evangeliese leiers het só ernstig van die waarheid van die Skrif afgewyk dat mens hulle hoegenaamd nie meer kan glo en ernstig opneem nie. Verreweg die meeste valse profete van moderne tye kom uit hierdie land. Vir hulle staan die waarheid eers vas nadat dit deur die bril van Amerika se rol in węreldsake bekyk en vertolk is. Hulle meen blykbaar dat Amerika saam met die Bybel die koers van die węreld bepaal! Dit is seker waarom Amerika volgens hulle ook deel van die Magog-oorlog van Eseg. 38-39 móét word. John Hagee het al gesę dat Operation Desert Storm God se finale oordeel oor Babilon was!

Op antieke kaarte is die land van Magog noord van die Kaukasusgebergte geleë, waar die moderne Rusland is. In  elk geval sę die Here ook baie duidelik dat Gog “uit die agterhoeke van die Noorde” na Israel sal optrek (nie uit die Weste nie!). Moskou en Jerusalem is op dieselfde lengtegraad geleë, daarom kan daar geen twyfel bestaan oor wie Israel se groot vyand uit die noorde is nie. In die nabye noorde is Sirië en Libanon geleë, en in die agterhoeke van die noorde is Togarma en Gog (Eseg 38:6; 39:2).

Hoe kan Jack Kelley vooraanstaande Joodse skrifgeleerdes se siening as geloofwaardig aanvaar, terwyl Jesus hulle kollegas in die eerste eeu as blinde leiers van blindes beskryf het? (Matt. 15:14). Hy het hulle ook daarvan beskuldig dat hulle glad nie die tekens van die tye kon verstaan nie (Matt. 16:1-3).

Hoe kan hy ook vir Bush in ‘n bondgenootskap met Iran (Persië) in ‘n gepoogde uitwissingsoorlog teen Israel plaas? Bush opponeer Iran dan ten sterkste en is juis die een wat ‘n (verkleinde) Israel se voortbestaan wil waarborg. Jack Kelley moet maar gerus na die kanaal Russia Today kyk om te sien hoedat Putin eerder die bondgenoot van Iran en ander radikale Moslems in die streek is, en besig is om hulle te help om die tegnologie en wapens vir ‘n uitwissingsoorlog teen Israel te bekom.

In elk geval is Bush op pad uit. In die afgelope jare sedert 9/11 was dit sy grootste doel om vestings van radikale Islam aan te val en vernietig, en sal hy beslis nie nou omswaai en dit sy hoofdoel maak om Israel saam met radikale Islam te probeer verdelg nie.

Amerika is besig om ekonomies te sink en sy dominansie in węreldsake te verloor. Hulle staar op die oomblik ‘n groot resessie in die gesig. Dit sal vir Kelley beter wees om hierdie realiteite te bespreek, eerder as om van Bush “Gog” te probeer maak wat Israel uit die agterhoeke van die noorde sal aanval. Om dit te kan doen, sal Bush net eers gou vir Rusland moet oorneem en hulle president word!

Kelley begaan ook ‘n groot fout as hy sę dat die Here die węreld deur die kerk en deur Israel aanspreek. Dit laat ruimte vir selfaangestelde profete in Israel en die kerk, en dit is juis die bron van soveel misleiding. Die Here spreek die węreld deur sy Woord aan, en hiervoor het Hy getroue getuies in die kerk en in Israel nodig, wat die Woord van die waarheid reg sny. Hulle is ongelukkig baie skaars, veral in Israel, waar die Skrifgeleerdes nog nie eers die basiese ontdekking gemaak het dat Jesus die beloofde Messias is nie. Waarom sal die Here aan sulke blinde leiers profetiese inligting toevertrou wat sy oordele oor diegene insluit wat die Messias verwerp het?

Verdere kommentaar

Bogenoemde opmerkings is goedgunstiglik deur Jack Kelley oorweeg. Hy regverdig egter sy artikel deur die argument dat Gog en Magog slegs na ‘n demoniese mag verwys, dus kan enige węreldleier teoreties ‘n rol daarin speel.

Sover dit die ortodokse Joodse leiers aangaan, stel hy hulle as mense voor wat deur God verblind is sodat die heidene gered kan word. Dit beteken dat hulle nie vir die feit geblameer kan word dat hulle steeds vir Jesus as Messias verwerp nie. Ek het soos volg hierop gereageer:

Gog, Mesheck and George Bush

Dear Jack

Thanks for your reply to my comments on your article.

The context of Ezek. 38–39 does not support the view that Gog in the land Magog is an unidentified demonic force, which opens the way to George Bush or any other world leader to identify with this role. I already indicated to you the etymology of Magog and its relationship to modern Russia. The allies of Magog are also literal nations (Ezek. 38:5-6), of which Persia is a direct reference to modern Iran. You will do well to expose the role of Iran, supported by Russia, in a major end-time, anti-Zionist conspiracy.

It is acceptable to render John’s reference to Gog and Magog at the end of the millennium (Rev. 20:8) “a demonic force.” This is a distinctly different war. At the same time, it is quite possible that this rebellion may again be stirred up from “the far north” in the ancient land of Magog.

As far as Israel is concerned, I would like you to further clarify your statement that God has imposed spiritual blindness on Israel in order to save the Gentiles. Do you mean perpetual blindness which still prevails today? That is clearly what you imply by condoning the inability of modern Israeli scribes to recognize Jesus as Messiah. This comes very close to John Hagee’s heretical view that Jesus never offered Himself as Messiah to the Jews and that they, as a covenant people, can be saved without Jesus (see his most recent book, In Defense of Israel).

Profs. John Walvoord & Roy Zuck (The Bible Knowledge Commentary, p. 482) say: “Israel’s continuing rebellious and unbelieving disobedience was judged by God’s turning to the Gentiles (Rom. 10:20; cf. Acts 8:1-8,10). At the same time God has not withheld salvation from the Jews. He has held out His hands, imploring them to return to Him.”

Only those Jews who willfully prefer to keep on rejecting Jesus as Messiah are still spiritually blinded. They are not the victims of a blindness imposed upon them by God. Paul says: “But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them” (2 Cor. 4:3-4).

Throughout the centuries since the crucifixion of Christ, multitudes of Jews have turned to God through the atoning sacrifice of His Son. The first 5000 converts of the Christian church were Jews. Paul said that “the gospel of Jesus Christ... is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek” (Rom. 1:16). He always preached to the Jews first before turning to the Gentiles, and explained, “if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them” (Rom. 11:14).

The argument was never raised that they are blinded by God and should be excused for not believing in Jesus. They were clearly made to understand that they can only be justified by faith in Christ (Gal. 2:15-16). For the testimonies of Messianic Jews, visit the websites www.caspari.com also www.bmja.net and www.messianictimes.com

Any Jew who do not accept Jesus as Messiah, including the orthodox leaders of modern Israel, willfully reject the Messiah against all prophetic evidence that He is indeed the Savior of Israel and the nations. Such people will have to bear the consequences of their own decisions. All their efforts to promote peace in Israel will come to naught, including their letter to George Bush. Paul said to the Ephesians: “the Messiah, Yeshua... Himself is our peace... For through Him we both [Jews and Gentiles] have access by one Spirit to the Father” (Eph. 2:13,14,18).

As long as the nations of the world, including Israel, keep on rejecting Yeshua, His Word and His gospel of salvation, their quest for peace will remain an elusive dream. The inevitable consequence of turning away from Yeshua, who is the light of the world, is to tread the dark road of the god of this world, even though he may present himself as an angel of light. Israel is responsible for aggravating their own problems by their continued rejection of Yeshua as their Messiah. There is no possibility of lasting peace without Him. As long as Israel and the nations continue to disregard Him in their deliberations, they keep on marching towards the war of Gog (Ezek. 38–39) as well as the great tribulation and the big world war of Armageddon (Rev. 16:13-16; 19:19-21; Matt. 24:21-22; Zech. 14:1-15).

                                                Blessings, Johan Malan